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was thrown into sharp relief as brian brown, president of the national organization for marriage found himself voicing opposition to gay marriage in front of an empty room. memo to republicans and actually anyone on planet earth -- if you find yourself making an argument to a room full of empty chairs, it might be time to change your strategy. james, i want to go you first on this, given your storied past. a column in the "washington post" yesterday said clinton's announ announcements moves the ball significantly in confirming that no democratic presidential candidate will ever be viable, she's sending a strong member to the court is that americans are ready to embrace it. >> i think it's not unexpected. to say the least. and i do think it does send a signal, no one is going to run for the democratic nomination that doesn't embrace marriage equality. i would just point out that republicans do have some experience talking to empty chairs. so -- >> that is bad i totally missed the joke. >> all the republicans that signed the supreme court brief, do a little exercise and see how many of t
organization for marriage, brian brown, sass the grassroots of the party are 100% committed to protecting marriage and you can't just kick them to the curb. >> and according to faith and freedom coalition founder, raffle reed, if the republican party tries to retreat from being a pro marriage, pro family party, the big tent is going to become a pup tent very fast. >> will republican elders heed the warnings from social conservatives? at the rnc at least, the ship may have already sailed. as evidence, the rnc strategy document released this week, the so-called growth and opportunity project, did not once mention the words christian or church. joining us now to discuss the future of social conservatism and marriage equality, is the president of the human rights campaign, chad griffin. chad, it is a happy day to have you on this program. >> it is nice to be here, alex. >> chad, let's talk about what's going on inside the republican party. there's much change afoot. but specifically on the issue of gay marriage, is it your thinking that we're witnessing a sea change from conservatives, that t
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